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Charles Templeton: Inside Evangelism

Charles Templeton, Former Evangelist and Agnostic
When finally I shook free of Christianity, it was like being born again. I began to see all of life differently. The things that had once seemed important now seemed trivial. And things I'd never seen the meaning of or the essence of I began to appreciate for the first time.

--Charles Templeton (in a telephone conversation with the editor)

Charles Templeton's careers have been many and varied: syndicated sports cartoonist, evangelist, pastor, television and radio personality, author of a dozen novels, screenplays, and nonfiction, and political candidate. He has held three of the top news jobs in Canada: executive managing editor of the Toronto Star, news director of the CTV Television Network, and editor-in-chief of McLean's magazine. Two of his novels deal with religious issues, Act of God and The Third Temptation. His autobiography, An Anecdotal Memoir, provides an intimate glimpse into his varied careers. He is currently writing a book on agnosticism tentatively titled Farewell to God. The following account focuses on Templeton's twenty-one years in the Christian church in Canada and the United States, during which time he preached in fourteen countries to audiences of up to seventy thousand.

In 1936, at the age of nineteen, Charles Templeton left his job as sports cartoonist for the Toronto Globe to become a minister in the church of the Nazarene. He had been reluctant to attend the Nazarene church where the rest of his family had been converted, but one night he went through a "profound change." He had returned home from a party at 3 A.M. His life seemed "empty, wasted, and sordid." "It was as though a black blanket had been draped over me. A sense of enormous guilt descended and invaded every part of me. I felt unclean." He prayed at his bedside, "Lord, come down. Come down. Come down. . . ." Then "a weight lifted off and an ineffable warmth began to suffuse every corpuscle in my body." Afterwards he prayed, "Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Thank you. . . ." As the birds began to chirp outside he "began to laugh . . . out of an indescribable sense of well-being at the center of an exultant, all-encompassing joy."

He was ordained by the Church of the Nazarene after reading only "half a dozen books and submitting to an oral examination by a group of local preachers."

Templeton spent three years as an itinerant evangelist, preaching in churches from Ontario to California "In Minden, Louisiana, I was preaching on the subject of 'God's Perfect Love' as a tornado touched down, disintegrating the segregated African Methodist church across the street, killing eight members of the congregation, including the pastor. . . "

During this period he preached in a town in Michigan where there wasn't much to do during the day. He began reading in the library of the pastor with whom he was staying, a library that included Thomas Paine's critique of Christianity The Age of Reason, Voltaire's The Bible Explained at last, Bertrand Russell's Why I am Not a Christian, Robert lngersoll's Some Mistakes of Moses, and books on Gandhi, David Hume and Thomas Huxley.

The arguments of these men stunned him. For about six weeks he stopped preaching "The way back was tortuous and slow."

He met his future wife, Constance Orosco, during an evangelistic campaign in Grand Rapids, Michigan. "She was the singer and I was the evangelist. We were married six weeks later."

Together, they took all their savings, $600, and rented an empty church in Toronto. Within six months it was impossible to find a seat in the Sunday night service unless you were on hand by 6:45. Every week hundreds were turned away at the doors."

The board agreed with Templeton to enlarge the church. But before the morning of the rededication, an arsonist set the building ablaze. Public sentiment was so positive that enough money was pledged in one service to rebuild the church. It was during the time spent as minister of the Avenue Road church in Toronto that Templeton witnessed two cases of instantaneous healing. Not to say that he is in favor of mass healing rallies, which he has always viewed as a health hazard rather than a blessing "since they leave behind an emotional wreckage and illnesses often worsened by neglect."

The two instances that Templeton witnessed occurred in private. In neither did he expect a healing to occur.

In the first, an infant suffering a big defect-a muscle that was misattached, causing the baby's head to be twisted to one side-was healed within minutes after Charles laid his hands on the child and prayed. The child's condition prior to and after the healing was documented at the time by hospital physicians. New World, a Canadian version of Life magazine, ran the story and a full-page picture of the mother and child.

In the second instance, Templeton prayed for his aunt after exploratory surgery revealed that her stomach cancer was both malignant and inoperable. As he laid hands on her and prayed, he says he "felt something akin to an electrical charge flow through my arms and out my fingers."

Within hours his aunt, who had been bedridden for weeks, was up and about. The cancer did not return, the pain from the adhesions ended, and she lived for another forty-two years.

Despite his opposition to "the public healing services of contemporary evangelism--wherein "the 'healers' are often simpletons or rogues or both"-Templeton says he is convinced that "what may loosely be called faith healing is an area of medicine with unrealized potential".

Templeton first met his long-time friend Billy Graham in 1945 at a Youth for Christ rally in Chicago. He had been invited to attend by Torrey Johnson, the pastor of an evangelical church in that city, and the founder of Youth for Christ. That night, hundreds of young people in an audience of twenty thousand responded to Billy's invitation to come forward and receive Christ.

Templeton returned to Toronto and immediately began his own Youth for Christ rallies. They soon became "the largest of the more than one thousand weekly rallies in North America."

Youth for Christ International was formed, and Billy Graham was chosen as the group's official evangelist. Together, Templeton and Graham alternated as preachers in London, York, Manchester, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Dublin, Belfast, Copenhagen, and Stockholm.

Returning home, Templeton continued to preach at Youth for Christ rallies and at his church in Toronto. Frequently he would fly to Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, St. Louis, and other cities to preach in stadiums and major auditoriums. One Easter sunrise he preached to fifty thousand in the Rose Bowl.

Back home in Toronto, he arranged yearly rallies in Maple Leaf Gardens. "Much of what we did was show business. Spectacle. The thousand-voice choir was dressed in white except for a number in black forming a cross at the center. There were five grand pianos, an international pageant in full costume, vocal soloists, a trumpet trio, the Octette, and to climax it all, Connie's "The Lord's Prayer."

"For Christian young people the Gardens rallies were pop extravaganzas. They were participants in something larger than life. Surrounded by thousands of their fellows, holding a common faith, they found a tangible justification of their religious commitment."

Then Templeton's doubts began to resurface. "Following our return from Europe, I had been fighting a losing battle with my faith. I had been so busy that there had been little time to take stock. But in the occasional quiet moments, questions and doubts resurfaced. There was a shallowness in what we were doing, a tendency to equate success with numbers. There seemed to be little concern with what happened afterwards to the youngsters who responded to our appeals. Billy, too, was troubled by it, and we talked about it many times. It undoubtedly contributed to his move from Youth for Christ to conduct his own campaigns.

"But my dilemma was of a different kind. I was discovering that, as I matured, I could no longer accept many of the fundamental tenets of the Christian faith. I had been converted as an incredibly green youth of nineteen. I had only a grade-nine education and hadn't the intellectual equipment to challenge the concepts advanced by my friends and mentors. I wanted very much to believe. There was in me then as there remains now an intense, inchoate longing for a relationship with God. In the beginning, I accepted the beliefs of the people around me, but I read widely in every spare minute; on planes and trains and in bed. Slowly against my will, for I could perceive the jeopardy-my mind had begun to challenge and rebut the things I believed.

"I had never believed all that fundamentalists believe-the Genesis account of creation, for instance, or the monstrous evil of an endless hell. But now the entire fabric was coming apart."

At this time a fiend suggested to Templeton that he quit preaching and return to school if he wanted to continue to be useful in the ministry. He was "startled" by his friend's suggestion. What would happen to the various projects he had founded over the years?

After "brooding, appraising, praying" he concluded that what his friend had sensed was true. His faith was disintegrating. "I lacked the intellectual training to deal with the questions that were beleaguering me. If I continued as I was going, I would soon become a hypocrite, mouthing what I no longer believed."

He applied to Princeton Theological Seminary but was rejected--his ninth grade education being less than the bachelor's degree requisite for attending. After a personal appeal to the president of the seminary, he was admitted as a "special student."

A month before he enrolled at Princeton, Templeton visited Billy Graham in Montreat, North Carolina. "Billy and I talked long about my leaving Youth for Christ. Both of us knew that, for all our avowed intentions to keep our friendship alive, our feet were set on different paths. He was as distressed as I was. We both knew that I was not simply giving up Youth for Christ, I was leaving fundamentalism."

Over the years, Templeton and Graham had often discussed their beliefs. "Once we spent two days closeted in a hotel room in New York City, exchanging experiences, discussing the Bible and theology, and praying together."

It was at one such meeting that they debated the Genesis creation account. Templeton couldn't accept it. But Billy defended it, pointing out, "When I stand before the people and say, 'God says,' or 'The Bible says', there are results. People respond. I don't have the tune or the intellect to examine all sides of each theological question, so I've decided, once and for all, to stop questioning and to accept the Bible as God's Word."

"But Billy," Templeton protested, "you can't do that. You don't dare stop thinking. Do it and you begin to die. It's intellectual suicide."

There are accounts in a few biographies of Billy Graham that claim this particular exchange between Graham and his friend led to a temporary crisis in Billy's faith.

Here was Templeton about to leave for seminary, but not wanting to part from his old friend. "'Bill,' I said, 'face it we've been successful in large part because of our abilities on a platform. Part of that stems from our energy, our convictions, our youth. But we won't always be young. We need to grow, to develop some intellectual sinew. Come with me to Princeton.'"

Graham replied that he could not because he was president of Northwestern Bible College, a small fundamentalist school in Minneapolis. He suggested that they seek admission to a seminary somewhere outside the U.S. "Oxford, for instance". As a measure of his sincerity, Graham held out his hand. There is no doubt in Templeton's mind today that if he had shaken Billy's hand "the history of mass evangelism would be different than it is" "But, he "couldn't do it" He could not give up the opportunity to enter Princeton for the possibility of a chance to enter Oxford later.

"Not many months later," Templeton recalls, "Billy traveled to Los Angeles to begin a campaign that [with the aid of a newspaper magnate's publicity blitzed], would catapult him overnight into national prominence."

While at Princeton, Templeton hoped to resolve some of the questions that were eroding his faith. "Paramount among them was the question. Who was Jesus of Nazareth? Was he a moral and spiritual genius or was he, as the Christian church has always held, 'very God of very God'"? In his search for answers he found the "stacks of relevant material in the library" to be of more value than his classes and conversations with his professors.

But his searching was not merely intellectual. "I knew that faith is more a matter of the spirit than of the mind". So, in his second year, Templeton began to fast one day a week "in imitation of Mohandas Gandhi--who remains one of the formative influences on my life."

Every night he walked for an hour on the golf course back of the seminary, straining to get in touch with God, "to grasp something of what the theologians have described as 'the mysterium tremendum.'"

One night as he stood beneath the stars, looking skyward, he went though what he later realized was a mystical experience "I was caught up in a transport. It seemed that the whole of creation, the trees, the skies, the very heavens, all of time and space and God Himself was weeping. I knew somehow that they were weeping for mankind for our obduracy, our hatreds, our ten thousand cruelties, our love of war and violence. And at the heart of this eternal sorrow I saw the shadow of a cross, with a silhouetted figure on it weeping."

Templeton sought to repeat the experience. He studied the writings of the Christian mystics and eventually realized that such experiences had no special significance--members of various religions have had similar experiences. Indeed, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow was able to go into a transport at will merely by repeating his name aloud.

Leaving Princeton, Templeton had reestablished his faith. He had "found a measure of certainty through a conscious act of commitment."

He was ordained into the ministry by the Presbyterian Church, and the National Council of Churches hired him in July 1951 to conduct "preaching missions." He traveled from city to city across the United States and Canada under their auspices, which included most of the churches in each city he visited.

To avoid "the scandal of love-offerings," he put himself on a yearly salary of $7,500. It was traditional for an evangelist to be paid all the money contributed during the closing night of a campaign, when the largest crowd is in attendance, which could amount to thousands of dollars. When it was publicized that Templeton was receiving a meager salary for his services, Time magazine used the opportunity to shaft Graham. Billy had just completed a campaign in Atlanta, and Time ran a picture of him. Over his shoulder was a mail sack bulging with the love offering presented to him on the closing night. To his credit, Billy immediately put himself on a salary at $15,000 a year.

Two significant differences between Templeton's and Graham's evangelistic campaigns remained. Billy spoke a lot about heaven and hell, and asked converts to come forward. Templeton seldom spoke about heaven, never preached on hell, and "deliberately avoided" applying any emotional pressure. At the end of his sermon, he would announce that an afterservice would be held for any who wanted to make a commitment, and would then dismiss the meeting. Those who wanted to remain had to move against the flow of the thousands leaving. Each night, hundreds chose to stay.

The other difference between their campaigns, when they preached south of the Mason-Dixon line, was that "in the beginning Billy's were segregated, mine were not."

As the crowds attending Templeton's campaigns grew larger, so did the newspaper coverage.

In the August 1953 issue of American magazine Edward Boyd wrote an article titled "Religion's Super Salesman." Boyd commented, "I have just seen the man who's giving religion a brand-new look; a young Canadian by the name of Charles B. Templeton. Passing up the old-style hellfire-and-damnation oratorical fireworks, he uses instead a persuasive, attractive approach that presents religion as a commodity as necessary to life as salt, and in doing, has set a new standard for evangelism.

"Dispensing with . . . tricks from the old-time evangelist's repertoire, he is winning converts at an average of 150 a night, and-what is something new in modern evangelism-they stay converted.

"At a recent two-week stay in Evansville, Indiana, for example, a count showed that Templeton had drawn a total attendance of 91,000 out of a population of 128,000. A survey taken six months later showed that church attendance was 17 percent higher than it had been before he'd come.

"He is booked two years ahead, a situation that the biggest Broadway hit can't boast, and the demands for his service are ten times greater than can be met. Moreover, observers who have closely followed his progress say that Templeton has not yet begun to hit his stride."

However, during this period Templeton began to experience pains in his chest and arms, sudden sweats at night, and a pounding of his heart that would shake his bed.

He was examined by a doctor who could not find any physiological causes for the problems. One specialist, however, told Templeton that his symptoms might be a psychosomatic disorder, some conflict or unresolved problem in his life. The physician added that unless the problem was resolved, the symptoms would continue and new ones could arise, adding to his discomfort.

Templeton knew what the problem was--doubt. "How does a man who each night tells five thousand to ten thousand people how to find faith confess that he is struggling with his own?"

Following the closing service at a campaign in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, described in the press as "the greatest crowd ever to gather in the history of Harrisburg, "Templeton made the decision: he would no longer conduct campaigns. He accepted a position as head of the Department of Evangelism for the Presbyterian Church, U.S.A. He taught at seminaries and universities and wrote two books, one of them being Evangelism for Tomorrow.

During this period, Templeton spoke at Yale for a week, meeting afterwards with various students. One was the outstanding man in the senior class. He was also the captain of the debating team and an avowed atheist. The two of them debated the truth of Christianity alone in a borrowed office. At the end neither had convinced the other. The student conceded, however, that Templeton had made "a hell of a good case."

Templeton's first reaction was elation, but he realized that he too had a concession to make-his arguments no longer convinced himself. "In the heat of discussion I believed them, but, alone, I knew that I had been role-playing."

During this time Templeton was hosting the CBS network's religious television program "Look Up and Live" (1952-55). Not long after his debate with the Yale student, Templeton quit the television program and "gave up the ministry."

About his irrevocable decision to leave the ministry Templeton states, "There was no real choice. I could stay in the ministry, paper over my doubts and daily live a lie, or I could make a break. I packed my few possessions in a rented trailer and started on the road home to Toronto."

Thus began his various careers as writer, editor, producer, politician. "The only activity I will not return to is the Christian ministry; I am and will remain a reverent agnostic."

Josh McDowell - Atheist Convert to Christianity?

Josh McDowell - Atheist Convert to Christianity?
Questions have been raised whether or not indeed Josh McDowell was an Atheist. Some on the web have reported McDowell was an atheist before accepting Christianity. A representative of McDowell's Ministries claims that was never so, and Ed Babinski quotes McDowell on what appears to be a testimonial of a former atheist.

From: sharon
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:53 PM
To: Josh Web
Subject: Review on a Book by Josh McDowell from Amazon

Greetings,

I'm writing because something has troubled me for years about Josh McDowell.

Josh McDowell claims he was an atheist, and I don't see how he possibly could have been one. It is impossible in my reasoning, to be an atheist (like Farrel Till and Dan Barker and the like) and becoming a Christian. I can only believe that Josh McDowell was a "backslider"... a Christian deep down at heart, and later began to take his faith seriously and following it. (Prv:22:6: Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. (KJV)

Is there anything on the web which goes indepth on Mr. McDowell's former "atheist" beliefs? Because I sure would like to read them, and compare them with what I know from other atheists' beliefs. Thanks in advance!

I can see how a person raised in a foreign land, and taught non-Christian, non-Hindu, non-Muslim beliefs could be an atheist (lacking a substantial teaching about a god, although most places on earth teach of some kind of god(s) --- then convert to Christianity, but not due to "biblical knowledge". Rather their neighbors are doing it, it offers social opportunities, so they become like their neighbors, without even the need to read the Bible.

The group of atheists I speak of are those like Professor Till, a former preacher, whom with much knowledge about the Bible, loses faith, after years of study and research... one group of atheists are atheists for lack of exposure to Biblical knowledge. The second group of atheists, become atheists, due to exposure to Biblical knowledge.

I'm not very clear on how or why Josh McDowell claims often he is a former atheist. What were his beliefs, while he was an atheist?

Thank you sincerely, very much,

Sharon

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The Response from Josh McDowell's ministry went something as thus:

Josh says in his tract, "Skeptic's Quest," that he was looking for meaning and purpose in life. He had tried religion when he was young but could not find the answers he was searching for. What he did not know until he was in college was that it is a relationship with Jesus Christ, rather than religion, which gives meaning and purpose to life.

He does not use the word atheist in the tract, but set out to prove Christianity false. Instead of being able to do that, he came to the following three conclusions: Jesus Christ was who He said He was, there is historic evidence for the reliability of Scripture, and the Resurrection of Christ took place.

In His service,
Penny Woods
Josh McDowell Ministry

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From: sharon
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:55 PM
To: Penny Woods
Subject: Re: Review on a Book by Josh McDowell from Amazon

Dear Penny,

Thank you for responding.

Many people have it so written on the internet, and I've heard it spoken on K-Love Radio and elsewhere, that Josh McDowell said he was an atheist, and from my limited knowledge about what Josh McDowell teaches, and his personal testimony, I simply cannot find an atheist in the picture of Mr. McDowell's account on his life. I could and can only find a "backsliding Christian", not an atheist.

He does not use the word atheist in the tract, but set out to prove Christianity false.

And I was an unbeliever who set out to prove Christianity true...About 3 years ago, I was a confirmed Deist, and had rejected the Bible utterly, after leaving a cult from 10 years before (raised from about age 5, in the legalistic Worldwide Church of God... my parents were baptised around 1975 and I finally left the WWCG in 1991) ... the Church had fallen apart, so I spent years wandering in confusion, with no where to turn, but maintaining my belief in a God. It had taught us well, not to trust in any other religion, and then itself became untrustworthy, as Joseph Tkach reformed doctrines... I was one that could not accept these radical changes, and instead of joining like others had, in one of the splinter groups, I struck out on my own in much confusion to find God on my own.

What happened, was losing faith in the Bible... ( for instance, when Peter denies Jesus, the cock crows one time in Matthew, Luke and John, but is recorded to crow twice in Mark --- this contradiction devastated me when I saw it in the Bible... I was sick to my stomach, I could not sleep, or eat... I felt as if the world had caved in on me all over again .. first our reliable church had crumbled, and now the Bible... I was devastated... it was traumatizing to learn about discrepancies in the Bible, after years of being told it was without error or contradiction ) when I recovered from some of this grief, I gained an indifference for the Bible.

Three years ago that changed. I believe it was indeed God himself that was at work in my mind, and spirit, and forced me to pick up the Bible (after years of indifference and deism), and to accept it on blind faith. I did after weeks/months of spiritual warfare.. to believe in a book which a lifetime had taught me to not believe in, it was an impossible leap of faith, but I made it. Very fervent search that I had never experienced. Easter morning at 3 a.m., in my home I was awake and pacing the floor, and I prayed a fervent prayer --- holding the Bible toward heaven, shaking that book, and demanding if indeed that were the true Word of God, "GIVE ME PROOF GOD". Shortly after, I felt compelled to leave the church which did not have my answers, one Sunday School teacher could not even tell me where the Bible came from, because he himself had not ever bothered to take the time to read it, or research it, and yet defended it as "The Inerrant Word of God"... I left the church because of such people, and put my faith in God to guide me, and seek the truth about the Bible/Spiritualism. My journey lead me into buying several thousand dollars worth of books, and for the first time, to actually read the Bible from end to end, hearing every word, and if indeed I felt that I had not captured the context of a chapter I'd repeat the process 6 or 7 times if necessary... until I felt comfortable to move on to the next chapter. When all was said and done, including studying in reference books that I had purchased from Christian Book Distributors - - - I found myself back where I was years before, rejecting the Bible all over again - - - except without indifference this time around. That's where I am today. I take the Bible very seriously, but I do not revere it as the inerrant word of God. I tried like the devil, to make Genesis and Science reconcile, I made many people peaved with my enthusiasm --- I wanted so badly for the Bible to be inerrant and giving me the peace and hope that it was the Word of God... for the first time in my life, I had began to take a serious look at what science actually teaches. From my understanding now, many of the concepts found in Genesis, came from Babylonian mythology. My search for truth continues, a search which I believe that God put me on... in that alone, I find peace. I believe God exists, beyond any doubt in my mind.

For instance... after reading the Bible, for what it says.... it was the Bible itself, that lead me to conclude there is no Satan at work in this world, but rather as Gandhi said "The only devils we need fear are the ones running around in our own hearts." I came away from the Bible and these many reference books with a new found lack of fear of the spirit realm. (Years before, for lack of study, I had carried varied spiritual beliefs into my Deism, when I lost faith in religion and the Bible. I had great fears of demons and devils --- today, I have no fear of such beings, I do not have that old fear of God's wrath either, a fear which the WwCG put in to its flock, and the Protestant Church I was attending, helped to exaserbate three years ago. Some study in theologian books, and encyclopedias, and reading the Bible helped me to unlearn those grim evil fears... demons attacking... the Baptist church had me so afraid to pray out loud -- one minister said "you must be careful about prayer, because there are demons about and they can take what you say to Satan, and he use your weaknesses against you"... I was terrified to pray out loud, but my study brought me to the understanding there is no Satan. There are no demons. The early books of the Bible, are absent of such concepts being the main reason I thought to reject a belief in them... further study confirmed the suspicion. I can pray out loud, without fear of a Devil either hearing me, or using the information against me, to hurt me... as if part of the spiritual journey with God taught me, "just calm down and trust me... things are better than the Church has taught you about me..." I have peace in that regard today. No fears of devils or demons attacking... The God I know, set me on a path to seek knowledge... and is not that God of Wrath I was raised to dread in the WwCG's legalistic Old Testament, not even the Protestant's New Testament which speaks of hell and its eternal death and damnation... I have no fear of eternal torment from the God that is my God.)

It appears to me, that myself and Mr. McDowell started out on the same spiritual path, but ended up on 2 very different outcomes.... my journey still continues, and in many ways, is just beginning. (The Search for truth and knowledge.)

Best Regards,

Sharon

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Yet another reply came back something as thus:

Sharon, as believers, we need to be wise to the work of the enemy (1 Peter 5:8) but we do not need to fear him, because if we resist him he flees (James 4:7). The Lord has given us authority over Satan. Jesus was present when Satan was thrown out of heaven because of his rebellion against God. That is what Jesus is referring to in Luke 10:18, 19 when he says, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you." The Bible assures us that He who is in us is greater than the enemy (1 John 4:4).

You mentioned that the early books of the Bible do not mention Satan. Actually, he makes his appearance early on, as the crafty serpent in Genesis 3:1.

It is unfortunate that some people are taught an unhealthy fear about the enemy in church, because correct biblical teaching will teach that though Satan is present and active in today's world, believers, through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit, need not fear what Satan can do. He was defeated at the cross. A good way to present Satan's position today is to say that he is condemned but not yet totally destroyed, almost like a person sitting on death row who is alive and can cause problems but is facing certain execution. Satan was condemned at the cross and one day he will be totally destroyed when he is thrown in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10).

We know that Satan was condemned at the cross because Paul is referring to what Jesus did to Satan and his demons in Colossians 2:15 when he says, "And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross."

1 John 3:8--"The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."

Hebrews 2:14--"Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death--that is, the devil. . ."

Jesus told us in John 10:10 that Satan came to steal, kill, and destroy, but He came to give us an abundant life. For those who do not give their lives to Jesus or do not properly understand their power and authority over Satan, he will do all he can to destroy lives, but believers who stand on the Word, are obedient to the Lord's teachings, and practice spiritual warfare according to Ephesians 6:10-18, have nothing to fear. If the enemy should attack, it will only be because the Lord allowed it, as He did in the case of righteous Job (see Job 1 and 2). For a person who is living in God's will, nothing comes into his life without first passing through the hands of God.

I encourage you to take these verses before the Lord, Sharon, and ask Him to give you His wisdom, insight, discernment and understanding. He never wants any of us to miss any point of truth He wants to show us because Jesus came to set us free from bondage, and any time we aren't walking in truth we are, to some degree, in bondage.

In His service,
Penny Woods
Josh McDowell Ministry

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From: Edward T. Babinski
To: sharon
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: McDowell's "atheism"

She apparently has not even read Genesis, which does NOT mention "Satan," instead it says that the serpent was "the wisest beast of the field that God had made." And it was cursed as a serpent would be cursed, not as Satan. I mean, was "Satan" cursed to go on his belly and eat dust all the days of his life? Was "Satan" cursed "more than all cattle?" Yes, she knows the later Christian theological interpretations of the tale about Eden, but she ignores the plain words of the text in favor of later theological interpretations.

I wrote about McDowell's alleged "atheism" at length. I sent McDowell ministries a paper copy too, and a copy online, sent to someone a bit higher up than Penny at his ministry. They never responded.

Best, Ed

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From: Edward T. Babinski
To: sharon
Cc: penny..
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Josh McDowell claimed he had "chucked religion."

Dear Penny,

I do not know what you have been reading about McDowell's testimony, but he claimed to have been more than simply a backsliding Christian. McDowell wrote that he had "chucked religion." He said he was not a "Christian." That's more than just "backsliding."

In the first edition of Evidence that Demands a Verdict his testimony was titled, "I've Got a Satisfied Mind" (referred to hereafter as "MT1" for "McDowell Testimony #1"). The second edition of ETDAV featured a longer rewritten version of MT1, titled, "He Changed My Life" (referred to hereafter as "MT2" for "McDowell Testimony #2").

"I chucked religion...it didn't work" (MT1&2).

"I thought most Christians were walking idiots... I imagined that if a Christian had a brain cell, it would die of loneliness" (MT2)."

"I figured every Christian had two brains; one was lost and the other was out looking for it" (MT1).

"I used to listen to professors in supercilious humanities classes, and if they didn't believe Christianity, you weren't going to catch me believing it." (MT1).

His "testimony" is unimpressive and expected, given the description he supplies of the state he was in at the time.

Best, Edward T. Babinski (author of Leaving the Fold: Testimonies of Former Fundamentalists, Prometheus Books, 1995, now in paperback)